In this introductory episode of Season 21 of the Affiliate Marketing Podcast, host Lee-Ann Johnstone is joined by Michael Cole, SVP of Marketing for Everflow. They discuss the importance of tracking and attribution, the challenges brands face in recognising the full value of affiliate partnerships, and the need for a broader understanding of customer journeys beyond immediate transactions. The season will provide you with insights, case studies, and practical strategies for affiliate managers to enhance their programs and demonstrate their value to stakeholders.
We are delighted to welcome Everflow.io as our sponsor, this season – let’s kick off Season 21 with Lee-Ann in conversation with Michael!
Talking points include:
“What we really want to talk about is all the extra value coming from affiliate marketing that is kind of being swept under the rug or just not being appreciated,” explains Michael in this season opener. The conversation highlights how traditional affiliate tracking misses crucial data points by focusing solely on immediate conversions. When brands fail to track engagement metrics and post-purchase behaviour, they’re seeing only a fragment of the true value affiliates bring.
This season will dive deep into how proper attribution reveals that affiliates often drive 30-70% more revenue than initially credited when you examine the complete customer journey.
One of the most compelling discussions in this episode addresses the difficulties affiliate managers face in communicating their value internally. “It’s really hard when you’re an affiliate marketer if you’re very siloed within your company, and you’re speaking a different language than everyone else,” notes Michael. This disconnection creates a situation where affiliate success gets undermined by competing narratives from other marketing departments. Lee-Ann reinforces this point, highlighting the critical “flip from going to a senior role to a head of acquisition role,” where telling a comprehensive data story becomes essential for career advancement and program recognition.
The episode concludes with a powerful example of how data can transform affiliate relationships. Michael shares a case study where a financial services company provided affiliates with detailed performance data across multiple stages of a complex customer journey. “They also would educate their affiliates on what didn’t work… please just focus on the ones that drive value and turn off those ones.” This approach created what Michael calls “a virtuous cycle,” where affiliates save time and increase earnings by focusing their efforts. This practical example perfectly sets up the season’s promise to deliver tactical, implementable strategies rather than just theoretical discussions.
[01:45] Introduction to Affiliate Marketing Season 21
[06:46] The Importance of Tracking and Attribution
[12:12] Challenges in Affiliate Marketing Perception
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