Winning Visibility in the Age of AI Discovery

September 24, 2026 Industry News, Podcasts
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Lee-Ann Johnstone
Affiliate marketing has changed dramatically over the past two decades. What was once viewed as a simple performance channel has evolved into a broader partnership ecosystem powered by technology, data, influencers, mobile, and now AI-driven discovery. AI visibility in affiliate marketing is raising new questions about which partners influence consumers before they click. In this episode, Lee-Ann is joined by Matthias Stadelmeyer, President & CEO at NYORDA, to discuss how the industry is evolving and what brands need to understand about the future of performance marketing.
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September 24, 2026

Affiliate marketing has changed dramatically over the past two decades. What was once viewed as a simple performance channel has evolved into a broader partnership ecosystem powered by technology, data, influencers, mobile, and now AI-driven discovery. AI visibility in affiliate marketing is raising new questions about which partners influence consumers before they click.

In this episode, Lee-Ann is joined by Matthias Stadelmeyer, President & CEO at NYORDA, to discuss how the industry is evolving and what brands need to understand about the future of performance marketing.

With more than 15 years at the company and experience navigating major industry changes, Matthias shares his perspective on why affiliate marketing remains one of the most valuable but often underestimated channels for brands.

Together, they discuss how technology and data have transformed affiliate marketing, why measuring the full customer journey is becoming increasingly important, and what AI-driven discovery means for publishers and advertisers.

As search behaviour shifts towards large language models (LLMs), Matthias explains why brands need to understand not only where their traffic comes from, but also which publishers influence AI-generated recommendations and consumer decisions.

Key Talking Points: AI Visibility in Affiliate Marketing

  • How affiliate marketing has evolved into partnership marketing
  • Why affiliate remains an undervalued channel despite strong growth
  • The role of data and technology in measuring performance
  • Why last-click attribution is becoming less relevant
  • How brands can understand the wider publisher impact on consumer journeys
  • The rise of AI visibility and LLM-driven discovery
  • How publishers are influencing brand recommendations in AI search
  • Why smaller niche publishers can have a significant impact
  • The future of mobile acquisition and app marketing
  • How brands can prepare for the next phase of performance marketing

1. How Affiliate Marketing Evolved Into Partnership Marketing 

Affiliate marketing is no longer just about sending traffic and measuring conversions.

According to Matthias, the channel has matured significantly because technology now allows brands to understand much more about customer journeys, sales validation, and publisher impact.

While the fundamentals remain the same, the data behind the channel has transformed how brands approach partnerships.

Affiliate marketing has also historically acted as an incubator for new marketing trends. Matthias explains that areas such as retargeting, search, influencer marketing, and social media marketing have all developed connections with the affiliate ecosystem before becoming their own established channels.

Today, the focus is moving towards a wider partnership ecosystem where different types of publishers and creators contribute across the customer journey.

2. Why Last-Click Attribution Misses Publisher Influence 

For years, last-click attribution has been the dominant measurement model in affiliate marketing.

However, as customer journeys become more complex, brands are looking for better ways to understand the influence different partners have before conversion.

Matthias explains that user journey reporting has returned as an important topic, but implementing it remains challenging because brands need consistent measurement technology and clear decisions around how commissions should be allocated.

The goal is not simply knowing who delivered the final click, but understanding which partners helped move customers towards a purchase.

3. AI Visibility in Affiliate Marketing: The Publisher Opportunity 

One of the biggest changes discussed in the episode is the rise of AI-powered discovery.

As consumers increasingly use LLMs to find recommendations, brands need to understand how visible they are within these systems.

Matthias explains that NYORDA’s AI visibility solution helps brands understand their share of voice in LLM responses and identify which publishers are being used as sources of information.

The surprising insight is that influence does not only come from large media companies.

Smaller blogs, niche publishers, and comparison websites can also play an important role in shaping how brands appear in AI-generated answers.

This creates a new opportunity for publishers who can create valuable, trusted content.

4. How Brands Can Measure AI Visibility and Find Publisher Partners 

Traditional search rankings have historically required years of investment.

However, Matthias explains that AI-driven search creates a different opportunity because new brands can potentially gain visibility much faster if they become relevant sources for AI recommendations.

The challenge is that brands now need to understand:

  • which content influences AI responses
  • which publishers contribute to visibility
  • how to optimise content for this new environment

NYORDA’s approach focuses on helping brands identify publishers that already influence their AI visibility and work with them to improve content structure and relevance.

5. Why Mobile Acquisition Remains an Opportunity for Brands 

Beyond AI, Matthias highlights mobile as another area with significant growth potential.

He explains that mobile is one of the fastest-growing areas within NYORDA’s business, but many brands still fail to properly track and market their apps.

For many app-first businesses, this represents a missed opportunity.

Better measurement and stronger acquisition strategies could help brands unlock additional growth.

Listen to Find Out More About

  • Why affiliate marketing continues to grow despite changing consumer behaviour
  • How technology has transformed performance partnerships
  • Why brands need to move beyond last-click attribution
  • How AI is changing search visibility and discovery
  • Why publishers will play a key role in AI-generated recommendations
  • How brands can measure influence across the customer journey
  • Why mobile acquisition remains an underused opportunity

Episode Timestamps 

01:30 – Matthias’ journey from Tradedoubler employee to CEO
05:10 – Why affiliate marketing remains an undervalued channel
06:11 – How data and technology transformed performance marketing
08:00 – How partnership marketing is expanding beyond affiliates
12:00 – The return of user journey reporting
17:30 – Why NYORDA developed its AI visibility product
20:25 – Measuring AI visibility and share of voice
33:20 – The future of partnership marketing and AI
36:00 – Why mobile acquisition remains a growth opportunity

Listen to the Full Affiliate Marketing Podcast Episode 

Affiliate marketing is entering a new phase where data, technology, and AI are changing how brands discover, measure, and work with partners.

In this episode, Matthias Stadelmeyer shares his perspective on the evolution of performance marketing, the rise of AI visibility, and why publishers will continue to play an important role in shaping consumer decisions. To find out more on NYORDA and their market launch of EMNA AI, click HERE.

Listen to the full episode to discover how brands can prepare for the next era of partnership marketing. Also, you can check out Affiverse’s Huawei/Tradedoubler webinar on revenue growth HERE.

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