Get ready for an insightful conversation about the evolution of affiliate marketing from the operator perspective to the affiliate side. Tero Paivarinta, Business Development Lead at humbl.ai joins host Lee-Ann Johnstone to share his fascinating journey from iGaming customer support in 2006 to becoming a key figure in affiliate relationship management. With nearly two decades of industry experience, Tero reveals how data transparency is revolutionising partnerships and why authentic relationships remain the cornerstone of successful affiliate programs.
Talking points include:
- How humbl.ai's data platform is cutting through industry misinformation by providing accurate SEO and PPC insights
- Why building personal relationships with affiliates goes far beyond business transactions
- The shift from chasing big-name affiliates to identifying and nurturing smaller, high-growth partners
From Operator to Affiliate: Understanding Both Sides of the Coin
Tero's unique perspective stems from his comprehensive industry experience, having worked on both the operator and affiliate sides. Starting in customer support for poker VIP players in 2006, he witnessed the birth of affiliate departments within marketing teams. His transition to Mr. Gamble six years ago marked a pivotal moment, allowing him to “really understand the good and the bad parts” of affiliate marketing. This dual perspective now enables him to serve as a bridge between operators and affiliates at humbl.ai, where he describes his role as “talking with friends from both sides.”
Data Transparency: Cutting Through Industry Myths
Humbl.ai's platform addresses a critical industry challenge: the prevalence of inflated claims from both affiliates and operators. Tero explains that affiliates often overstate their traffic capabilities while operators consistently oversell their conversion rates. Humbl.ai collects comprehensive SEO and PPC data globally, tracking every SEO website with top casino brand lists that receives 200-300+ organic clicks monthly. With 80-85% accuracy in FTD estimations, the platform provides operators with realistic expectations rather than the “weird stuff” found in traditional tools like Ahrefs and Semrush.
Relationship Building: The Human Element in Affiliate Marketing
Despite the emphasis on data, Tero stresses that successful affiliate management remains fundamentally about human connections. He advocates for affiliate managers to know their key partners personally – birthdays, family details, interests – treating the relationship “more like a friendship.” The most successful partnerships involve ongoing communication about life beyond business, from football discussions to barbecue plans. This approach creates lasting relationships that survive market fluctuations and career changes, with former partners often reconnecting when new opportunities arise.
Listen to find out more about:
- How to identify high-growth small affiliates using month-on-month data analysis
- Why paying affiliates early can accelerate partnership growth and loyalty
- Tero's upcoming platform developments that will further revolutionise affiliate marketing insights
Key segments of this podcast and where you can tune in to go direct:
[02:17] Tero's iGaming journey from 2006 and first glimpse into affiliate marketing
[23:00] Finding quality affiliates: why the ones who find you aren't always the best
[28:08] A round-up of top tips shared
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